Off-Coloratura ([info]off_coloratura) wrote,

Creeeeeepy creep creep creep

I'm singing what might be considered my first leading role at a major opera house right now, and loving it. But I am discovering a new aspect to my career.

I have a website as a singer, with some photos, audio clips, a resume and a domain email address on it. This email came to that address today:
could you please please send me a photo of you. you are absolutely wonderful and i love all i have heard and all i have read about you. much more success to you and thank you very very much. you are so beautiful.
followed by his name and an address.

Now, I don't want to be rude to a fan, but this seriously creeps me out. It borders on the stalkery. I have very seldom been asked for my photograph from complete strangers as if I was a Hollywood star or something, but I don't know whether that was because I was just not well known enough yet, or that I'm an opera singer (which does not result in quite the same level of celebrity, except for a scant handful of singers).

And yet, Laura Claycomb (who is moderately famous in the opera world and has a few recordings under her belt) talks about having to stock small photos to sign and mail when she goes to Europe or sings at major houses, so I didn't want to dismiss the guy out of hand. But something rang false to me here. He doesn't mention anything specific about me or where he has seen, heard, or read about me. It could almost be a form letter.

I got a request like this once before, from a different fellow, who had some photos of my voice teacher and wanted an autograph from her (and who emailed me the photos) but she was much more of a name than I am. She, to her credit, was creeped out by the guy and wouldn't respond.

Well, I did a search for this new guy's name, email, and address and found the following in various guestbook pages.

On the guestbook for a young semi-unknown actress on a UPN show:
dear _______, you are so beautiful. you are going to fly ,no matter what you do. could you please please send me a photo of you. please. i can't wait to see what all you do in the future. much success to you and i love you very much.

On the guestbook for a female comedian:
_______=funny and oh so beautiful.

On the guestbook for a race car driver:
dear _______-could you please please send me a photo of you. please. you are absolutely amazing. thank you so very much.

On the blog of a Vegas cocktail waitress:
could you please please please send me a photo of you. without any exceptions,you are the most beautiful woman in the world. everything you ever do is going to turn gold. you are absolutely wonderful. many blessings and thank you very much.

To which she comments: "Anyone want to take up a collection for this poor guy?"

Yeah. I think this possibly may not be a genuine fan.

What do you folks think about photo-grubbing from random people? At what level of fame does it become appropriate, if ever?
_________
His postal address is on all of the photo requests, and also on a personal ad of his I found in the same search. It seems a bit dangerous for him to let so many strangers on the Internet know where he lives. I wonder how many responses he gets to these approaches.
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Anonymous

November 28 2005, 23:07:39 UTC 6 years ago

I wonder if he simply collects autographs for sale on ebay...
How old do you think he is? Perhaps a teenager?

[info]off_coloratura

November 28 2005, 23:09:22 UTC 6 years ago

AAAAHHH! Stalker! :)

[info]zzyzxx

November 29 2005, 00:23:25 UTC 6 years ago

Yeees, must have... your autograph...
...well, now that I have a copy of the CD "Little Women" :)

[info]zzyzxx

6 years ago

[info]zzyzxx

November 28 2005, 23:08:54 UTC 6 years ago

Sorry

I apologize, the above comment is mine. No need to creep you out with an anonymous comment when this is already happening. Something is weird about the Mac I am using as it did not let me log in at first.

[info]off_coloratura

November 28 2005, 23:09:58 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Sorry

His personal ad, to answer your question, said he was 47. The photo said much the same.

[info]zzyzxx

November 29 2005, 00:28:13 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Sorry

Does the photo look creepy? Scary? Normal?

[info]zzyzxx

6 years ago

[info]chamberpotts

November 28 2005, 23:16:07 UTC 6 years ago

It sounds like he is a bit unstable but probably harmless. You could always mail him a picture from a fake return address (or even better, use his address as the return address).

Unfortunately, there are so many really creepy people out there that the minor ones still set of the freak detector.

[info]sarcasma

November 28 2005, 23:23:55 UTC 6 years ago

The best advice I heard about this, which can save you trouble if someone's trying to do something nefarious with the photo AND the trouble of wondering whether they are (god help this sentence) is to use a "signature" that's nothing like your real signature. You don't have time, I assume, to conduct an interview with every kook out there who wants a photo to ascertain their level of kookdom. So sign with just your initials, or a little butterfly or something that can't be used against you. Have a faux handwriting style for any personal message so that they can't duplicate that either. Then he can't do much with a hard copy of your photo that he couldn't do with what you've already got online.

BTW, I've gotten really similar emails and I'm nowhere near your career level. There seem to be a lot of people out there papering their walls with 8x10 glossies.

[info]sarcasma

November 28 2005, 23:28:21 UTC 6 years ago

um, right, your question!

You didn't ask what you should DO, you asked what we THOUGHT. Right.

I simply don't understand it. I don't have a problem with people wanting my photo, I just don't have any idea what they DO with them. What would I do with a photo of a famous singer? I've got nothing.

[info]off_coloratura

November 29 2005, 04:10:19 UTC 6 years ago

Re: um, right, your question!

Well, I have an autographed (not to me; I bought it at the Met gift shop) of Anna Russell hanging over my keyboard as an inspiring reminder not to take myself too seriously in this business. But apart from that, I think some people like to collect headshots because it lets them have a little piece of famous people for themselves. A little personal cache of fame that they can touch.

But non-famous people? Maybe he hits folks up for photos who are at the beginning of their careers and flattered by the attention, then when we get super-famous they'll be worth lots of money. Or something.

Or maybe he just jerks off to them. Either way it doesn't make me want to send him any.

[info]off_coloratura

November 28 2005, 23:32:56 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah. I haven't decided yet whether I'm going to send him something, but my gut tells me not to. Why encourage this sort of thing?

I'm hardly famous enough to warrant the request as it is, let alone from someone who seemingly doesn't know my work at all.

[info]zzyzxx

6 years ago

[info]zzyzxx

6 years ago

[info]magdalene1

November 28 2005, 23:39:19 UTC 6 years ago

My mom always used to say that "the more nerds that like you, the prettier you are." It was not comforting then as I imagine it isn't now.

Also, not stalking you, but I got to listen to the audio clips today, and they are truly gorgeous.

[info]off_coloratura

November 29 2005, 04:17:25 UTC 6 years ago

AAAHHHH! STALKER!!!! :)

Glad you liked 'em. :)

[info]serrana

November 29 2005, 06:11:29 UTC 6 years ago

The girl liked the MP3s too, when I played them for her a few weeks ago...but she said what she really wants to hear you sing is "The Bitsy Fider Thong."

You know, the one with the water-spout.

Of course, since the child is being Raised By Geeks, she believes that the second verse to the Bitsy Fider Thong is the 80s Spider-Man theme....

[info]zzyzxx

November 29 2005, 00:52:34 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, and to answer your original questions, if he weren't collecting random photos to sell on ebay, maybe he is a bit creepy (harmless or not). Maybe he doesn't have many friends in real life, and thus seeks for not-yet-so-famous (no offense) entertainers with a hope of getting to know them by posing as their (suppsedly few) fan.

I guess if your photos start appearing in the front pages of national papers, Time/Life magazines, or the tabloids, then you should expect total strangers to ask for your autographed photos.

I thought of a rather mean solution: send him a copy of "Ain't no way back."
But, on second thought, him drooling over you as a teenager is even creepier...

[info]tibicina

November 29 2005, 01:51:08 UTC 6 years ago

It's also possible that he's just one of those people with the new fandom/obsession every week. If he sends you repeated requests for a photo... then he's a stalker. If he sends /everyone/ photo requests.... he's just kind of sad and can't make up his mind. But... ummm... yeah, don't send him your real address just in case anyway.

[info]off_coloratura

November 29 2005, 04:15:22 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, there is absolutely no way in hell I would ever send Random Creepy Guy my address.

As for the new fandom/obsession every week, I have no earthly idea how some random person in Pennsylvania would suddenly found out about me. I'm certainly not that famous. And he didn't write to me as if he was a fan (no specifics about where he's heard me sing, how he found out about me); he wrote the same exact thing he wrote to everyone else. He's farming for free headshots.

[info]dstroy

November 29 2005, 04:12:26 UTC 6 years ago

That's not too bad.. I'd go with the "ignore" option. Sounds like the guy goes "fishing" to see if he'll get lucky.

I get weird letters from, believe it or not, FROG FANS at my stupid frogland site all the time, and they are a touch scarier because, I mean, we're talking about FROG FANS afterall! One guy painted me a giant picture of a red eyed tree frog, AND he included a whole set of pewter frog warriors (think DND only extra dorky) that he had hand painted, AND he included a hand written 3 page letter about how awesome the site is and how cool I am (I kid you not...even Floyd was a touch freaked at this part!). Dude, I get stuff like this from kids all the time, BUT THIS GUY WAS 26. Aieyaiyai.
Nevermind that at the time, the only photos of myself on the site were this one and this one. Yike.
And that is why I have a PO Box for anything to do with that site!

[info]off_coloratura

November 29 2005, 05:05:09 UTC 6 years ago

They probably figure you'll enjoy having frog kitsch as much as they do! That said, there is something a tad disturbing about someone who likes frogs that much (as opposed to someone who makes a website about them?) :)

[info]uccello_canoro

November 29 2005, 04:34:05 UTC 6 years ago

website

Do you have any clips of songs you have done. What kinda of gigs have/are you doing?? I would like to audition for Palm Springs Opera but, i'd like somewhere closer perhaps. Could you offer any advice as to where I should start?? Thanks!!

Mandi

[info]off_coloratura

November 29 2005, 05:00:42 UTC 6 years ago

Re: website

I highly recommend Laura Claycomb's excellent Guide for Young Singers, one of the pages of which I linked to in this post. That should give you a very good start.

As for the audio clips, I like to keep myself semi-anonymous on this blog (semi, because many people who read it have met me in person, but I don't want to broadcast who I am to Teh Intarweb), so I won't link directly to them, but skeetermonkey can tell you where my site is.

[info]bmh4d0k3n

November 29 2005, 05:24:06 UTC 6 years ago

Re: website

Just so you know, I, a non-creepy random guy, have been able to discover your identity, with a modest amount of sleuthing, based on the last few entries, today's comments, and your User Info. So, the level of anonymity could be higher, if such is desired.

[info]bmh4d0k3n

6 years ago

[info]bmh4d0k3n

6 years ago

[info]pecunium

November 29 2005, 19:12:12 UTC 6 years ago

On the risk side, fairly low, since he is being so scattershot in his search for pictures.

I'd still not encourage him, lest he develop into an obsessive type.

I don't understand the urge (and I've gotten a few, random, people doing similar things). From my POV the hate mail is easier to cope with.

TK

[info]coryphella

December 1 2005, 18:23:13 UTC 6 years ago

Out of a shared interest in professional opera and LJ friends I'm adding you, if you don't mind. I'm a lighting designer hoping to work in opera (I'm currently in grad school).

Anonymous

December 12 2005, 20:01:11 UTC 6 years ago

I...um....ok.

Hey, I dont know if I have an opinion about the "stalker", but.....

you ROCK as Bella. and yes, that's definitely a lead role. I'm going to see you twice. Took my boyfriend on Saturday afternoon, and am going with my mother again. YAY!!!

but I'm not going to ask for your picture.....a recording would be worthwhile.

From: she who was once "divalibby76"
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